Dual Posts of Complaint on Executus: Gartan and Shockerz

Hey, here's another "bad pug experience" from Executus!

This one is actually two threads... one started by Gartan and another started by Shockerz.

My personal preference is the thread started by Gartan, simply because he was the tank for the group and it's obvious to anyone looking at his Armory page that he's very inexperienced as a tank and doesn't have much understanding of his spec nor his role in instance parties.

Oh, and of course, he also doesn't seem to have much understanding about the old saying, "Practice makes perfect" when it comes to real, actual tanking in real, actual instances before hitting level 70.

Enjoy!

Young Guy Seeking Online Girlfriend Gets Gamed, Details Posted On Forums

Here's another interesting thread going on in the Realm forums of Executus, about the player Treeform who has gotten a bit of a reputation as a guy who is looking for an online girlfriend, written by the guy who took advantage of Treeform's youth and desperate need for female attention.

Treeform found himself with about 500g less in his pockets from trying to woo a "female"'s attention, but of course, the "female" was a guy.

By looking at the snippets of conversation, one can see that Treeform has already been bilked out of 1000g by another "female" on the game.

By page three of the discussion, attention is brought to the fact that Treeform transferred servers after this fiasco was exposed.

A good summary is written by a female not involved in the story:

Word of advice for all of you guys... if you shower a girl with attention, and give her things that she didn't have to work for, sooner or later, she's going to take advantage of you. A lot of girls have low self esteems and they enjoy having tons of guys fall all over themselves to pay attention to them. I've seen it happen tons of time irl and on WoW. Treat girls like they're normal people and you'll end up going a lot further in life and in the game. Plus you won't end up on the forums looking like a fool. I refuse to accept special attention and would rather be seen as just one of the guys' because forum and guild drama = dumb.

Having experienced an "admirer-turned-stalker" guildmate myself and having to sic other Officers on him to get him to cool it, and then having that Stalker just turn his attention to another one of our female friends and continue the intensity, forced us to kick him. I fully expect he'll stalk someone else now that he's on OUR /ignore lists, however...

Maybe I should have reported him. Some boys are dumb and don't deserve to procreate.

When Transferring Servers/Changing Names Doesn't Work

It's always fun to watch those who are socially inept make fools of themselves and be flamed for it.

Of course, we're all socially inept around here... what's that saying about Arguing on the Internet is like winning at the Special Olympics? Rude saying, I believe, but very accurate.

Here's the summary on this realm forum thread, which points over to this guild application.

Mood left his guild on the old server, apped to a "better" guild, was denied, made a HUGE post on his old guilds forums how he was sorry for everything and he loves everyone. And was denied so he transfered. He had the biggest crush on someone twice his age (his guild master) he even went as far as making her WoW name his PW.

He's a shitty hunter.

This is all.

Of course, like any good thread, the "Mood" guy posts, as does the guildmaster he had a crush on, smattered with a whole bunch of posts from folks outside of the situation.

Mage Who "Rocks" Gets To 70 in 3 Weeks, Won't Control Aggro

Oh, here's a good drama thread, brought to you by the level 70 Mage Reichswehr on the realm of Eldre'Thalas.

The story goes something like this:

Group of 70s PUG for Shadow Labs, Warrior is Arms spec.

Mage "warns" right up front, and I quote from his posting:

I DPS like hell and pull a lot of agro

A brief one-line description from the Shammy healer in the group:

[...] All the way to the first boss the tank plays chase the mob thats chasing the dps.

The story itself isn't the fun, dramatic part. It's the fact that Reichswehr comes back again and again and talks about what a great mage he is, how his spec rocks (for PvP and Solo uses), and how he must be "all that" because he got his mage from 1 to 70 in three weeks.

Nevermind the fact that he seems to think that it's perfectly "normal" and fine for him to tackle instances and pull aggro _constantly_, like it's completely the Fury-spec'd tank's problem aggro can't be contained.

And of course, since this is on a public, highly anonymous forum, he gets lots of responses in his thread - both from partymates from that PUG, and from complete strangers who feel the urge to respond to his claims.

Will he ever see any of their points as anything valuable? Especially on the topic of controlling DPS and building it up more slowly when a tank is not protection spec'd?

Check it out here

Drama Blog's First "Thank You" Note

Hey cool, I got some attention regarding this entry about a purposeful ninja:

This is Sashatmaker, and quite frankly I respect this posting. It is probably the most accurate representation of who I am in the game but I must say, though people look at me in a negetive manner....I do what I do cause the policy is the policy.

Thank you

No no, Thank YOU for helping create the drama that this blog is founded upon!

Feel free to leave more notes that will refer me to more drama posts that you've inspired through your unique play style!

In fact, I think a blog of your activities could be real hoot to read, in a kind of twisted way ;)

Drama Begins Regarding Gear Matching in Battlegrounds

Along with Patch 2.1 of World of Warcraft came many modifications, small and large.

One of the most impactuous changes was in the Player vs Player Battlegrounds, where "Gear Matching" was implemented as a way to attempt to give players more evenly-matched games and less immediate discouragement to people who are brand new to the battlegrounds and just trying to get a foothold or an understanding of how to play them well.

Of course, this is a significant change that has yet to be fully played out in World of Warcraft - no amount of Player Test Realm exposure will truly test any new content as well as the actual player base will.

Here's the first of what will likely be many drama threads on this topic. I'll do my best to keep up with some of the best ones and provide links to them here for your perusal:

Laij of guild Frequency of realm Laughing Skull writes:
The new patch and matchmaking system has just nerfed the hell out of any pvp guild. Why run BG premades anymore? All you do is get matched up with other premades that are going to drag games out extremely long.

Laij writes a short first message, extoling the challenges his pre-made PvP group is now facing due to this Gear Matching modification. From his point, he and his team have gone from "rolling over PUGs" to either "long, excruciating games" or being "rolled over by Gruul-equipped pre-mades".

Since he's on a PvP realm, he takes the standard burst of contentless flame from many folks from many realms, but on occasion there's some intelligent banter and suggestions that go on, albiet some of them come across harsh, in a standard PvP "L2P" fashion.

Has the Gear Matching changed your battlegrounding very much? For the good? For the worse?

When E-Relationships Go Bad

I didn't write this but it's excellent on its own and I didn't want to blockquote it to make it look funny.

Original Post Is Here

Well folks, its a funny thing when you become friendly with somene in a MMORG. Of course the exciting flirtation... the elation over reciprocation... maybe even if you are lucky a little bit of cyber action.

It seems like the perfect situation doesnt it?

To those that do enjoy the pass time, to those that enjoy it as a seperate side thing from possible relationships, im no judge and i hope you enjoy yourselves thoroughly. But keep in the back of your mind that the person you are having said "E-Relationship" with... well... has documented proof of every little thing you say, your feelings, your passions, your fears...

and if things go wrong it will be smeared in a place where eeeeverryyyonnneee can see. And it doesnt even have to make sense of where it appears!

Here are some examples:

A fun little discussion on the (at the time) upcoming patch to 2.1 turns afoul at post 45. Lol where did that come from? And this continues for another 3 pages until...

Uh oh, here comes revealing tales of suicide attempts, bodily dysfunctions, etc, etc.

Folks, remember, have fun but never be too personal. Enjoy yourself, and represent yourself with dignity and class!

[Blog Editor here, I just had to post this wee bit, in case you're not sure there's real drama here:]

Kazba writes:

What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Is it that you just delight in my humiliation now, or perhaps you really are as heartless as you say you've become, possibly you just wish to provoke me into saying something that I will regret in defense of my precious "pride"? I'm not going to retaliate, it doesn't prove anything, except how easily manipulated I can be. So back in your glory, you struck a wounded animal, you should feel great.

Airing of Legendary Dirty Laundry

Good morning, readers!

I found a good bit of Drama today in my Realm Forum reading.

See, we've got this large, family/raiding guild called Legendary on the realm of Aggramar, and I guess in the last little while there's been some upset, some drama, some fighting, and a handful of people left, and an Officer stepped down.

And yay, a whole bunch of it is outlined on the Aggramar Realm forums, with contributors who were guildmates and even Officers in the guild or currently still are.

Here's how it starts...

When are you guys going to get it? For what seems like well over a year now, we've seen our best players and friends leave our guild and move on to other guilds, both raiding guilds and otherwise. When people voice complaints, you ignore them or lie to them and tell them that their complaints are "being addressed". When people voice complaints on the forums, both privately and publicly, after you've bashed and flamed them, you delete or hide their posts from view, so that no actually discussion can take place. If someone quits the guild, you label them a complainer or a troublemaker.

After that, a couple of the current-day officers post, and one of the Officers who recently stepped down from his role and also left the guild.

Lots of good dirt here, if you're bored and looking for a 4+ page thread!

Old Drama Re-Stirred

Forums are great for stirring up shit.

And, for the most part, once a forum discussion is started, unless you've got good moderators or you've personally got control of the forums, there's no way to stop the momentum of discussion that you started.

Sometimes, that momentum slows for a while; even stops. Then, someone does something weird, re-reads the old discussion thread, and responds to it, bringing it back "from the dead".

Some folks call this "thread necromancy", raising dead threads back to life.

Here's a necromanced post about the guild Channel Five News Team on Alexstraza (wave to a certain Troll who lives there and reads here), which apparently came from the guild Myst on that same server.

The original post is about BlackWing Lair adventures, and how a Judgement Breastplate fell and the Loot Council/Officer Team voted that someone other than the top-DKP person receive the loot upgrade.

No explanations given, no remorse felt, no excuse for breaking their own rules "the officers" ( if you decide to call them that then that is your problem) decided that Ferarro needed it more than the person with the highest DKP, yet both were wearing items with the approximate same ILvl.

From what I can tell from the Officer responses that told their side of the story, the original poster (posting on an alt of course) isn't even one of the two people who were in competition for the Breastplate that dropped!

The best part of the initial posting, from my opinion, is the implication that because one of the players in question is a female, the main problem "must be" that there's some "lovey-dovey" stuff going on, clouding the Loot Council's vision:

I encourage all my realm mates to watch the flirtatious /rub /love /kiss crap from Ghostt to Ferraro and from Blackfreid. It is enough to make you sick. Of course, there were no predispositions to Ferraro. Consider that Ghostt can be found running her alt through many low level instances. Black's continual lovey dovey emotes to her. What happened was fair? I mean fairness is what is in mind when DKP is awarded? Yes? Please go duel outside to see who gets the girl. Leave the fools who follow you to be treated fairly and equitably.

That, of course, is refuted in a clean, clear way later on in the thread.

I'm not sure why this thread was raised from the dead, exactly, but hey, it's drama and that's what this blog is all about!

Quote from one of the Officers who responded:

Let's get the most retarded out of the way and address your childish, 5th grade rumors spreading about lovey dovey/relationships/favoritism hilarity. I'll ignore the fact that you're obviously a coward

Crafters Calling Out Those Who Seek To Profit

With the release of Burning Crusade came a lot of advancements to professions, and the introduction of some high-end Bind on Equip epic craftables.

While those high-end BOE's are tough to get your hands on, many high-level crafters have a line up of people who are looking for these great pieces of equipment to be crafted for them so they can use it to improve their own toons.

Of course, there are always players who are looking to profit from the lack of product on the market, and some of them will outright lie to get the product they're looking to sell, and then come to the forums and communicate in broken English (although it seems to be their first language) about "their right" to sell the craftable.

This one's good, Wipeoutt is looking to be a kid who has already garnered himself a reputation on Proudmoore as a leech and a terribly poor tank who gets kicked from guilds if he doesn't leave them seeking greener pastures, first.

Some quotes from the thread:

Original Poster writes:

Wipeoutt: Curious, after I had crafted your helm, you had asked me twice if you were allowed to resell it, and I had explicitly stated NO...the helm was for use only. After I had said no, you clearly stated that you were going to keep it for yourself. Was there a good reason for the outright lie or were you just *#@!ing around with me?

Wipeoutt, in dire need of a spellcheck and some typo fixes, replies:

maybe iam wrong but if i pay some one to craft somthing with my mats am i not allowed to do with it what i like? not only that but iam not selling the helm you owe me a apologie not only that make sure you no what your talking about before you go blazing sombody on a public form i would exspect more from you. you could have just checked the armory and seen i was using the helm this poast is realy uncalled 4

Cheating? Or Just Sympathetic?

This one isn't any fun at all, and I'm not sharing it to share a chuckle.

I'm sharing it simply because it's a dose of reality amongst all the stupidity.

Is the "Husband" in question cheating with the (underage) "emo whore", or is he just sympathetic to her plight?

You decide.

Whiner Calls Someone Ninja

Found this over on the Zul'jin discussion boards:

Gotta love it when this happens:

1. PuG happens.
2. Leader comes up with assinine looting rules.
3. Member rolls "need" on a Bind-on-Equip blue which is an upgrade.
4. Leader gets snitty and switches looting to Master Loot
5. Member's friend gets snitty and he and Member leave.
6. Leader can't find new folks to continue the PuG with.
7. Leader comes to forums and posts a wall of QQ text about Member, calling him a "Ninja"
8. Forum readers start to put Leader in his place.
9. Leader comes back and says "I'm not looking for your input".
10. Leader gets further flamed and likely put on some people's "do not party with" list.

And here's the thread that counts to 10 and probably beyond. And a great quote from point #9:

Woadraider writes:

Well all 6 of you are trolls who can't read, I wasn't looking for any responses so lol. I think I care less then most of you (I don't go posting on every one I read) I am just trying to refresh peoples memory on how to group loot.......

And just in case you miss it in his original post, here's what he means:

Woadraider QQs:

Generally items which are boe are greeded on, so I said for everyone to greed it (several times). The problem here was that it was an upgrade for Gengiskhan so he decided to need after everyone else greeded. Loot belongs to the group I don't care who needs a boe they should do what the group agrees on.

Sounds like a control-freak loot whore to me.

Fighting Over Shoulderpads of Assassination

One of the things I'd label as being intermediate-levelled in terms of running dungeon parties with other people is the knowledge about what boss drops are best for what classes. Often, players start learning about this stuff in around level 40 and the dungeon of Scarlet Monestary, where things that drop can be used by multiple classes, but the stats on the item make it obvious to an experienced player that specific classes would make better use of the equipment than others.

Hunters are regularly labelled as players who take equipment that is not very good for them to use, taking it over Rogues (leather for the +agi despite being able to wear mail at 40) and Warriors (for the +str and +sta) and even Mages (for the +int).

This particular thread, however, talks about a "stealh run" in one of the level 70 dungeons, where three rogues and two druids went in and snuck their way to a boss and downed him - only to have "rogue" shoulders drop and one of the Druids roll "need".

Check out this thread to see what the original poster and follow-up posters had to say about it, including who won the shoulders.

One Blue Per Run, Not Stated In Advance

Ah, here's a good one, with important contributors:

1. Original Poster (of course)
2. Guildmaster of "greedy" person in question
3. "Greedy" person in question
4. Members of the peanut gallery pitching in

The story?

PuG of 70s heads into Black Morass and loot rules don't seem to be discussed up front.

Blue BOE bow drops, Hunter "Need"s as an upgrade.

Blue Trinket drops later on, party leader tells Hunter, "pass on this one, you already won a blue". Hunter rolls "Need" as an upgrade and wins the trinket.

Party leader comes to forums and posts his tale of woe.

Guildmaster of Hunter apologizes for Hunter's behavior and boots him from the guild.

Hunter comes onto the forums to join in on the discussion, full of bile and hate.

Check out the full thread here.

So, what do you think? Is the "you've already gotten a blue this round, pass" rule becoming something of a standard in PuGs, or was the Original Poster way off base?

Purposeful Ninja: Sashatmaker, Kil'Jaeden

Oh, the fun.

Check out this thread, full of hate and reason for it:

Sashatmaker is a mid-40s Alliance player on the realm of Kil'Jaeden who purposefully ninjas items and then reports players who swear at him and go against the Terms of Service for language.

He also enjoys reporting players with special Ascii characters in their name, even after receiving a lot of help from said players.

But of course, since he is "only being a ninja" and that's not against the rules, and since he's not swearing and abusing people, he isn't being banned.

Oh the joy!

Thankfully, he's making a good name for himself and hopefully that'll at least make him transfer servers and start his bothering process somewhere anew.

Non-Guildie Asked To Heal Gruul, Denied Rolling On Loot

On the Moonrunner forums, there's a topic recently posted by a level 70 Priest who was asked to join another guild's Gruul runs as they were short on Priests.

No loot rules seem to have been discussed, but when nice loot dropped that was part of a Tier set for Druids, Priests or Warriors, the Guild Warriors got first dibs and the non-guilded Priest was denied.

Now, the Priest doesn't want to heal for that guild anymore, and has been facing a number of harrassing whispers from the guild on that topic.

Here's the whole deal, right here.

Snottigrub, 70 Warrior Tank Skips Realm With Flasks, Borrowed Cash

Here's some quotes from this Original Poster's story:

after our latest prince kill I pull him aside (in vent) since he's the only tank in the guild that I don't personally know in real life, and ask him "hey man, are you definitely into this guild - are you planning on sticking around. I don't want to allocate this to you and have you jump ship. Just take an equal shot at it. So he immediately says "oh I definitely plan on staying. I love the guild."

So what do I do? I give him the helm in hopes that it will help us progress further, passing on it for myself, and our other healing druid who is an excellent player.

Two days later he transfers to this server. No word on vent, no word in our forums - he never said a thing.

Along with the helm, he took numerous herbs and ore (from helpful guildies), approximately 25 flasks of the titans

And of course, as good Drama threads tend to go, early in Page Two, Snottigrub replies to the accusations. There's then 12 more pages of posts to go through.

Check it out!